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Modal says off-policy correction beats full sampler-trainer alignment in RL

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Modal says off-policy correction matters more than fully aligning the RL sampler with the trainer, since full alignment is expensive and the mismatch still grows without correction.

To test this, Modal trained an agentic coding model using fully asynchronous RL with mixed-precision samplers spanning six accelerator types and three precisions (BF16, FP8 and NVFP4). Modal says that with off-policy correction, training stayed stable through convergence and matched homogeneous samplers at lower cost. A heterogeneous configuration, which Modal says had a 4.7× larger sampler-trainer KL on average, matches homogeneous performance while costing 15% less. Modal says the configuration was not heavily optimized for cost, so further savings are available.

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  1. Oct 13, 2:26 PM ET · 1 article
    Modal argues off-policy correction matters more than full sampler-trainer alignment in RL
    Modal: Modal argues off-policy correction matters more than full RL sampler alignment
  2. Oct 13, 2:26 PM ET · 1 article
    Modal reports heterogeneous sampler-trainer setup matches homogeneous performance at 15% lower cost
    Modal: Modal reports a heterogeneous sampler-trainer setup that is 15% cheaper
  3. Oct 13, 2:26 PM ET · 1 article
    Modal runs RL with mixed-precision samplers on B200 GPUs
    Modal: Modal runs RL with mixed-precision samplers on B200 GPUs
  4. Oct 13, 2:26 PM ET · 1 article
    Modal trains agentic coding model with async RL on mixed-precision, mixed-accelerator samplers
    Modal: Modal trains agentic coding model with mixed-accelerator RL samplers

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Oct 13
  1. ModalOfficial
    Modal argues off-policy correction matters more than full RL sampler alignment

    AIModal says fully aligning the sampler with the trainer for on-policy reinforcement learning is expensive, and partially aligning only some aspects still leaves the sampler-trainer mismatch growing. The post argues that off-policy correction, which fixes this growth, matters more.

    Image from @modal's post
  2. ModalOfficial
    Modal reports a heterogeneous sampler-trainer setup that is 15% cheaper

    AIModal says a heterogeneous sampler-trainer configuration matches the performance of homogeneous samplers while costing 15% less, despite a 4.7× larger sampler-trainer KL on average. The company notes the configuration was not heavily optimized for cost, so further savings are available.

    Image from @modal's post
  3. ModalOfficial
    Modal trains agentic coding model with mixed-accelerator RL samplers

    AIModal says it trained a model on agentic coding tasks using fully asynchronous reinforcement learning with mixed-precision, mixed-accelerator samplers. With off-policy correction, training stayed stable through convergence, on par with homogeneous samplers, at lower cost. The approach lets training use inference optimizations across vendors and hardware generations rather than a single fixed cluster of the latest accelerators.

    Video from @modal's post
  4. ModalOfficial
    Modal runs RL with mixed-precision samplers on B200 GPUs

    AIModal uses Miles from RadixArk as its RL framework, with SGLang samplers and a Megatron-LM trainer that updates the policy in BF16 on B200 GPUs. It runs two setups: mixed samplers spanning six accelerator types and three precisions (BF16, FP8 and NVFP4), and homogeneous samplers that run only on B200s with BF16 weights and a BF16 KV cache.

    Image from @modal's post

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