Zyphra argues ultra-long contexts need subquadratic hierarchical attention
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Zyphra says attention over ultra-long contexts may need to scale subquadratically, and it presents its hierarchical method ZHA as a path there.
The company argues that attending to everything buries the signal in noise, while overly sparse attention loses it, so hierarchical attention may be needed for attention to work at all, not just for efficiency.
For sequences of 100M+ tokens, Zyphra says retrieval may need to grow with the predictive information in a sequence rather than its full length. It says the top-p set in dense attention models scales like a sublinear power law, which it reads as evidence that attention is already intrinsically sparse, and that ZHA uncovers this structure. The company links to a paper on arXiv and a blog post.
Written by AI from the articles below · updated Nov 2, 5:23 PM ET
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- Nov 2, 5:04 PM ET · 1 articleZyphra suggests ultra-long contexts may need subquadratic attentionZyphra: Zyphra suggests ultra-long contexts may need subquadratic attention
- Nov 2, 5:04 PM ET · 1 articleZyphra shares ZHA, a hierarchical attention method for 100M+ token contextsZyphra: Zyphra proposes hierarchical attention for 100M+ token sequences
- Nov 2, 5:04 PM ET · 1 articleZyphra argues dense attention's top-p set scales sublinearly, so attention is intrinsically sparseZyphra: Zyphra explains why top-p attention selection may be subquadratic
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Zyphra@ZyphraAIOfficialZyphra suggests ultra-long contexts may need subquadratic attentionAIZyphra says ultra-long contexts may require subquadratic attention, arguing that attending to everything buries the signal in noise while overly sparse attention loses it. The company suggests hierarchical attention may be essential for attention to work at all, not just for efficiency.
Zyphra@ZyphraAIOfficialZyphra proposes hierarchical attention for 100M+ token sequencesAIZyphra says retrieval at 100M+ tokens may need to scale with the predictive information in a sequence rather than its full length. It presents hierarchical methods such as ZHA as a way to strike that balance, with a paper on arXiv and a blog post.
Zyphra@ZyphraAIOfficialZyphra explains why top-p attention selection may be subquadraticAIZyphra says the top-p set in dense attention models scales like a sublinear power law, suggesting attention is already intrinsically sparse. It says its ZHA method uncovers this structure, and the post asks whether top-p selection is actually subquadratic.

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