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Latent Space podcast interviews swyx on AI Engineering and China's builder community

AILatent Space's host swyx is interviewed by Ninggao88 of Linkloud about how the Latent Space newsletter started and why "AI Engineering" needed a name. The episode also covers the Kill My SaaS contest, where agents passed entry checks but choosing useful software required judgment, and the AI builder community in China.
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⚡ Behind Latent Space: from AI Substack to the first @aiDotEngineer in China 🇨🇳

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmDLDy3ZSNE

This time @Ninggao88 of Linkloud turns the mic around: asking @swyx how LS started, why “AI Engineering" needed a name, and what’s different about the builder community in China.

We also get into Kill My SaaS: agents could pass the entry checks, but choosing software we’d actually use took judgment about the organizer’s workflow. That gap between generating software and making a good product runs through the conversation, from conference tools to Legora and Thinking Machines.

A special one for longtime listeners, with the original essays, demos and Chinese community posts on screen.

Chapters on YouTube:
0:00 AIEi Shanghai
2:31 Cold open
3:28 The conversation with Galen
8:01 Learn in Public
10:54 How Latent Space started
13:05 The idea for AI Engineer
25:10 The conference as a dataset
29:57 Kill My SaaS
39:31 What the contest judge measured
46:45 Jev and System One models
52:49 Writing and founder stories
1:02:13 Legora and product taste
1:03:29 OpenClaw adoption in China
1:07:35 Thinking Machines and interaction models
1:10:02 Reading and listening recommendations

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Original title: ⚡ Behind Latent Space: from AI Substack to the first @aiDotEngineer in China 🇨🇳