# Bad Influence story: Dwarkesh Patel says data gains outpaced model gains in pretraining progress

Active · 1 article · 1 source · First reported 11-10 22:33. Times are ET.
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Latest update (11-10 22:33): Dwarkesh Patel says data gains outpaced model gains in pretraining progress

Overview: Dwarkesh Patel and Jerbear pretrained open model recipes and data corpora representative of each year from 2019 to 2025, at small scales. Patel says data improvements gave a 12.0x compute multiplier, against 3.7x for model improvements, or 3.24 times as much. He says the gains stack independently, with a better dataset helping every architecture about equally. The full results are posted on dwarkesh.com.

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