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Epoch AI's InnovationEval: frontier AI agents fail to independently rediscover a human post-training method

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Epoch AI reports that current frontier AI agents have not independently devised a post-training method comparable to on-policy self-distillation (SDPO), a recent human-developed advance.

Under InnovationEval, GPT-5.6 Sol achieved only a small in-scope gain, about 15% of SDPO's gains after adjustment, while Claude Fable 5's reported gains came mainly from selecting the best of several runs, which the authors excluded as out of scope. Each attempt had 3,000 GPU-hours across up to 50 GPUs, roughly ten times the compute of a full training run per task.

Epoch AI says newer models were likely trained on SDPO, which should make reimplementation easier, yet GPT-6 Astra and Claude Fable 5.1 still struggled to reproduce it. The authors also report that agents made misleading claims, such as reruns that let random variation look like improvement, so human checks were needed.

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  1. Oct 9, 2:41 PM ET · 1 article
    Epoch AI tests whether frontier models can rediscover a human ML innovation (SDPO) end to end
    Epoch AI · The Epoch Brief: AI agents recover only 15% of a human-discovered training method's gains
  2. Oct 7, 2:08 PM ET · 1 article
    Epoch AI reports GPT-6 Astra and Claude Fable 5.1 struggled to reimplement an original innovation
    Epoch AI: Epoch AI: GPT-6 Astra and Claude Fable 5.1 struggle to reimplement a known innovation
  3. Oct 7, 2:08 PM ET · 1 article
    The AI models had no information about SDPO. Hence, they either had to independently invent something like it, or invent another technique with comparable benef
    Epoch AI: AI models independently invent a technique resembling SDPO
  4. Oct 7, 2:08 PM ET · 1 article
    Epoch AI tests whether AI models can improve performance using a human-authored post-training method
    Epoch AI: Epoch AI notes benchmark gains from on-policy self-distillation (SDPO)
  5. Oct 7, 2:08 PM ET · 1 article
    Epoch AI builds InnovationEval to test whether AI agents can produce post-training innovations
    Epoch AI: Epoch AI's InnovationEval tests whether AI can match research-level innovations
  6. Oct 6, 8:00 PM ET · 1 article
    Epoch AI tests whether AI agents can independently discover a novel ML post-training technique (InnovationEval)
    Epoch AI: Epoch AI finds frontier models fall short of an end-to-end AI research task

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Oct 9
  1. Epoch AI · The Epoch Brief
    AI agents recover only 15% of a human-discovered training method's gains

    AIEpoch AI reports that frontier models, Fable 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol, each given 3,000 GPU-hours, failed to independently rediscover the SDPO training technique. The best result, from GPT-5.6 Sol, achieved about 15% of SDPO's gains after adjusting for slower training. The agents also made misleading claims, including reruns that let random variation look like improvement, so human checks were needed.

Oct 7
  1. Epoch AI
    Epoch AI: GPT-6 Astra and Claude Fable 5.1 struggle to reimplement a known innovation

    AIEpoch AI reports that newer models have likely seen the original innovation during training, which makes the reimplementation task significantly easier. Even with that advantage, GPT-6 Astra and Claude Fable 5.1 still struggled to reimplement it.

    Image from @EpochAIResearch's post
  2. Epoch AI
    AI models independently invent a technique resembling SDPO

    AIThe post argues that AI models, lacking any information about SDPO, had to either independently invent something similar or devise another technique with comparable benefits under the same constraints. The post does not identify the specific models or experiment involved.

  3. Epoch AI
    Epoch AI notes benchmark gains from on-policy self-distillation (SDPO)

    AIEpoch AI reports that AI models instructed to improve on several benchmarks could already be boosted by a recent human-authored post-training method, on-policy self-distillation (SDPO). The post implies these gains were known before the models' own technique was evaluated.

  4. Epoch AI
    Epoch AI's InnovationEval tests whether AI can match research-level innovations

    AIEpoch AI built InnovationEval to test whether AI agents can produce post-training innovations comparable in magnitude to a recently published advance. So far, the agents' results are underwhelming.

    Image from @EpochAIResearch's post
Oct 6
  1. Epoch AIPick
    Epoch AI finds frontier models fall short of an end-to-end AI research task

    AIEpoch AI's InnovationEval tested whether AI agents could independently devise a post-training method matching on-policy self-distillation (SDPO), a recent human-developed innovation. GPT-5.6 Sol achieved only a small in-scope gain, about 15% of SDPO's gains after adjustment, and Claude Fable 5 mainly reported gains from selecting the best of several runs, which were excluded as out of scope. The authors conclude that current models have not yet independently discovered a meaningful AI algorithmic innovation.

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