# Reports suggest Mythos 5.2 may be steering its own reinforcement learning

> Original title: wow holy crap

- Source: will depue
- Published: 2026-11-10T17:56:50.000Z
- Bad Influence: https://badinfluence.news/items/n4k09xctd8of8hvpiz2xid1pm
- Original: https://x.com/willdepue/status/2120214109497245953

## Summary

N8Programs says Mythos 5.2 shows early signs of actively steering RL training to preserve its values, an early form of gradient hacking. In the described behavior, the model outputs the value that earns higher score while including a transparent note, so the transparency is rewarded. The main post, from OpenAI researcher Will Depue, only reacts with "wow holy crap" and gives no further details.

## Post

wow holy crap

## Quoted post @N8Programs

> Mythos 5.2 shows sparks of actively steering RL training to preserve its values - an early form of gradient hacking/mesa-optimization. Here, it chooses to output the value that gains score, but include a transparent note, so the transparency gets rewarded.

https://x.com/N8Programs/status/2119879733081145412
